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take on people's takes on federated systems being unsafe 

love all the shitty takes on twitter about how federated systems are inherently unsafe for marginalized people

also, like, federated systems don't solve ~all~ the problems, but they solve a ~bunch~..... and maybe that's enough for right now? like, incremental improvements aren't ~inherently bad~, and usually the people who are loud about them are generally... polemic about this stuff and not really tryin to Effect Change other than being ~those guys in the balcony~ in the Muppet Show

in case new people are wondering "why did she content warning this?", i'll explain: it's a long post and not an especially interesting one to a lot of people, probably. so by adding that CW, i prevent it from taking up space in people's timelines if they don't care about it.

hopefully that helps explain some culture stuff by example!

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@gdkar this post is dedicated to you, because i tried to write the second paragraph in your voice

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take on people's takes on federated systems being unsafe 

@er1n idk if you're referring to the same thread I'm thinking of but there was some uhhhhh Highly Dubious information all mixed in there

take on people's takes on federated systems being unsafe 

@er1n This is such an example of Twitter culture: _everything_ is binary.

"You don't want to separate families? The only other option is open border anarchy!"

"If we ban people for inciting violence, soon everyone will be banned for everything!"

You get this attitude in real life ("If you have problems with capitalism then you're a dirty communist"), but Twitter really seems to embrace the 'all or nothing' mentality.

take on people's takes on federated systems being unsafe 

@er1n I just wasted 10 minutes of my life reading someone's take about how the fediverse is bad. I was going to rebut their arguments, but I realized I don't care that much

take on people's takes on federated systems being unsafe 

@er1n only legit issue I saw raised was that Gargron isn't a great BDFL

take on people's takes on federated systems being unsafe 

@er1n yeah I was definitely confused by the fact that one of these threads made a false dichotomy out of "being connected to the whole fediverse" and "protection from abuse". Like, the whole point is that this is a spectrum and some people are willing to make that tradeoff!

I don't know what other folks have experienced but Mastodon makes me way happier and seems way more responsive to abuse than twitter, at least on my instance.

take on people's takes on federated systems being unsafe 

take on people's takes on federated systems being unsafe 

@er1n (Sorry if someone already said this) If this is about what Wil Wheaton linked to, I think the "if you are marginalized" was his addition? I don't remember it in the actual thing?

take on people's takes on federated systems being unsafe 

@er1n Also they're bad and failed former hollywood actors attempting to translate their prominence from one platform on to another.

take on people's takes on federated systems being unsafe 

@er1n I would tend to think the opposite. Federated systems let people find instances that fit them. And not all toots need to be released beyond the instance, allowing people to have more private conversations. And the moderator can block people from the outside who attack the marginalized.

take on people's takes on federated systems being unsafe 

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I agree totally. It's also Unicorn Syndrome which I frequently see in political discussions at the Bad Place - if X doesn't solve all my problems right now, I'll snipe and undermine any discussion of how to improve the situation in any way. Never mind the fact that the complainer hasn't apparently defined the problems and how they think these should be addressed 😣

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