**Erin 🕯** @er1n · Jan 11, 2018, 02:53

**Erin 🕯** @er1n · Jan 11, 2018, 02:53

Erin 🕯 @er1n

big reason i hate js: no structure, and i need structure to think effectively

**josef** @jk@mastodon.social · Jan 11, 2018, 02:56

**josef** @jk@mastodon.social · Jan 11, 2018, 02:56

@er1n last time i used js it was an asynchronous hell. its like a joke programming language

**Spencer Alves** @impiaaa@dev.glitch.social · Jan 11, 2018, 02:57

**Spencer Alves** @impiaaa@dev.glitch.social · Jan 11, 2018, 02:57

@jk @er1n and the asynchronous parts don't even work. it's like they wnet, "who needs closures anyway??"

**Erin 🕯** @er1n · Jan 11, 2018, 02:58

**Erin 🕯** @er1n · Jan 11, 2018, 02:58

@impiaaa @jk "hmmm uhhh what do you mean, 'using actual modern cs research in async programming'"

**Erin 🕯** @er1n · 2018-01-11T02:58:56Z

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@jk @impiaaa "we just added function callbacks to everything and it doesn't block now, it's async and good"

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**josef** @jk@mastodon.social · Jan 11, 2018, 03:00

**josef** @jk@mastodon.social · Jan 11, 2018, 03:00

@er1n @impiaaa *turns back to monitor, which is showing a 90-degree rotated fractal mountain-range of nested code blocks*

**Spencer Alves** @impiaaa@dev.glitch.social · Jan 11, 2018, 03:02

**Spencer Alves** @impiaaa@dev.glitch.social · Jan 11, 2018, 03:02

@er1n @jk and also I forget who said it but, it's like the node developers added function callbacks to everything, called it "asynchronous" and a new way of programming, when in reality they had just reinvented cooperative multitasking. you know, like before OSs were developed?

**josef** @jk@mastodon.social · Jan 11, 2018, 03:02

**josef** @jk@mastodon.social · Jan 11, 2018, 03:02

@impiaaa @er1n yield()

**DJ Sundog - from the toot-lab** @djsundog@toot-lab.reclaim.technology · Jan 11, 2018, 03:03

**DJ Sundog - from the toot-lab** @djsundog@toot-lab.reclaim.technology · Jan 11, 2018, 03:03

@jk @impiaaa @er1n pause()

**Erin 🕯** @er1n · Jan 11, 2018, 03:04

**Erin 🕯** @er1n · Jan 11, 2018, 03:04

@djsundog @jk @impiaaa everyone loves cooperative multitasking, a multitasking system that lets workloads inform scheduling!
*five minutes later* we regret to inform you cooperative multitasking lets any process eat your CPU whole!

**DJ Sundog - from the toot-lab** @djsundog@toot-lab.reclaim.technology · Jan 11, 2018, 03:08

**DJ Sundog - from the toot-lab** @djsundog@toot-lab.reclaim.technology · Jan 11, 2018, 03:08

@er1n @jk @impiaaa they're all just one big confused process anyway.

**æon** @aeonofdiscord@icosahedron.website · Jan 11, 2018, 03:11

**æon** @aeonofdiscord@icosahedron.website · Jan 11, 2018, 03:11

@djsundog @er1n @jk @impiaaa love too live in the glorious multicore future where everything has to run single-threaded because we couldn't figure out how to make a concurrent javascript vm

**Spencer Alves** @impiaaa@dev.glitch.social · Jan 11, 2018, 03:13

**Spencer Alves** @impiaaa@dev.glitch.social · Jan 11, 2018, 03:13

@aeonofdiscord @djsundog @er1n @jk and then they introduce multicore performance features only to promptly disable them because of a CPU bug

**bhtooefr** @bhtooefr@mastodon.social · Jan 11, 2018, 09:40

**bhtooefr** @bhtooefr@mastodon.social · Jan 11, 2018, 09:40

@er1n @djsundog @jk @impiaaa What scares me is people who have used RISC OS their whole life, conflating their OS and applications being crazy lightweight and optimized, with cooperative multitasking being inherently superior.

It's been a few years since I've seen this, but I've seen people bashing preemptive multitasking as a concept because RISC OS on a 233 MHz StrongARM was faster than Windows Vista on a Pentium III. In the 2010s.